I enjoy shooting my .30 Carbine. It is a 50th Anniversary model made by Iver Johnson. It is a great shooter.

The problem is that shooting .223 and 7.62 X 39 ammo, which is so cheap, makes feeding a .30 Carbine kind of painful. There just isn't any cheap ammo available, at least not as cheap as for other rifles.

Last Saturday at the Big Houston Gun Show, HoustonHusker and I were looking at ammo prices and I saw some Wolf steel-cased .30 Carbine for sale. I decided to buy 500 rounds and give it a try.

This is it, along with a round of standard PMC commercial ammo.

Someone recently asked what the European designation for .30 Carbine was.

It is listed as 7.62 X 33 mm.

I started shooting it today and immediately noticed that it was loaded "weaker" than US commercial ammo.

Here I am shooting it and you can notice the fairly weak ejection of the casing.


Of course, the real "acid test" for ejection on this type of firearm is to shoot it from the hip.

This acts sort of like "limp wristing" a pistol.

If it's going to jam, this will usually cause it.

Notice the weak ejection.

I experienced several jams. These were "failure to completely cycle" jams.


I decided to try a few rounds of PMC commercial ammo.

Here I am shooting fast from the hip.

Notice a couple of rounds of brass in the air.

It fed the rounds as fast as I could pull the trigger.

No jams.

It was also throwing the brass much further than the Wolf casings.

Just to eliminate all possible factors, we tried several different magazines and also let Tman try a few mags of ammo.


Here's a typical jam.

The bolt has over-ridden the next round, due to short stroking and has also failed to eject the empty casing.


Here's another jam.

In this case, the empty was ejected, but the bolt did not fully go to the rear and failed to pick up the next round. Instead, it has over-ridden the round and jammed.


Just in case anyone thinks I am down on Wolf, we also brought a couple of our ARs and shot several hundred rounds of Wolf .223 with not a single problem.

Wolf in .223 is slightly down-loaded compared to US commercial ammo, but it is just fine for plinking.

And, it is cheaper than anything else out there.


Here's a pic of the feed ramps and chamber after 100 rounds of Wolf .30 carbine.

As usual, it left some unburned powder and carbon residue in the chamber, due to the steel cases not fully expanding and sealing the chamber.

If you are interested in this issue, look at the previous post which more fully explains it.

1. Wolf .30 Carbine is probably the cheapest factory loaded ammo currently available.

2. It is fine for plinking, if you don't mind some jams and failures to feed.

3. It is not reliable enough for duty use.

4. It is noticably less powerful than US commercial ammo.It was a beautiful day at the range and better than any day we ever spent at work.

Wish you guys could have been there.
(Cause it's fun to shoot stuff .)